25. The Leader’s Uncomfortable Change

Episode 25 November 11, 2025 01:07:17
25. The Leader’s Uncomfortable Change
The Illumify Game Changer
25. The Leader’s Uncomfortable Change

Nov 11 2025 | 01:07:17

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Show Notes

A leader’s vision of meaningful change can make others very uncomfortable. So uncomfortable in fact that they may even fight it furiously. Why is that when it’s change that could better their lives? In this episode, Jonathan reveals the answer and what he can do about it.

 

01:00 Amplify Question: How might this change make some people uncomfortable?

06:24 If our assumptions are part of our identity, the story we tell ourselves, then breaking with them will be painful.

09:11 I’m hearing and voicing the criticism. This is how it would make some people uncomfortable. And angry.

14:13 If we’re breaking with an old world, and want to bring people with us, then we have to gently separate them from that identity.

16:33 The new vision doesn’t tell people what to do.

18:59 Not comfortable with a vision which sees in its mission changing people’s behaviour.

21:50 My rejection of what is now is because I have a deep conviction that too many people are having to live against the grain of the prevailing conditions of choice.

25:34 What to say to those whose life is most in tune with what is now.

29:03 If not guiding, do you see your role as leading?

36:39 The road of the past had become a dead end.

41:48 If I’m confident to break with the past, it’s not because I am judging you. I’m judging the conditions.

44:45 A story of crossing the chasm of change, and who goes first.

57:10 A story of scientists sharing shaped by the environment.

01:00:01 Adding not subtracting choice. It has to feel like an expansion of possibility.

01:03:26 Final Answer

 

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