09. The Leader’s Search for Joy

This episode goes right to the heart of it, exploring the connection between joy and igniting meaningful change. It’s interesting that Jonathan, a self-described non-believer, is so attuned to the soul.

00:55 Reference Cards: The difference between “I think”, “I believe”, and I know”

05:40 Illuminate Card 8

11:00 There’s joy in being with the crowd. It’s uplifting.

12:35 What does worship mean?

15:25 Joy as an outpouring, going over the limits, uncontained

16:00 Joy as the fuel of the soul

18:40 Digging for dignity, where the human starts, the part that can’t be taken away.

20:55 Feeding vs fueling the soul

22:55 Is it possible to admire one’s self?

25:00 Fully accepting all of one’s self is not easy

29:30 Surviving vs. thriving

35:00 “Come on then” -- A childhood story never told before

40:55 “At some point, fear becomes intolerable.”

45:29 Back to worship… A plea or a provocation?

50:45 Going to a concert is a conscious desire to go beyond your limits.

52:05 “As a non-believer, I am very comfortable saying that worship is healthy and necessary, and fulfilling some deep need that I don’t fully understand.”

55:55. “When we’re radiant, I see it as the soul expanding at that moment and filling the person. At that moment, there’s nothing but the soul.”

58:20 An anecdote of joy walking

1:03:50 Joy is a unique emotion, deeply connected to the soul.

1:04:44 Can we ignite meaningful change without tapping into our soul?

1:11:50 Going back to the source where we refuel ourselves.

1:13:00 What brings you joy? [“A moment of expansion when we become bigger than ourselves.”

1:14:47 Lack of joy in state of survival

1:17:00 Final answer [“We just need to be plugged in again.”]

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